was struck by when i read the names in the black box on the front page of the "new york times". you had three types of people. you had women. you had teachers. you had children. that's a pretty good base, a foundation for a real serious movement, and i think that, you know, on the other hand, i was watching "meet the press" with diane finestein, but some of the things she said was you see where the temz of the deal already are. they talk about the assault weapons ban that they're working on, that she's working on, and it exempts, she noted, as a virtue of the bill that it exempts 900 specific types of guns, and you see something like that, and you're, like, that's the bill that we're hoping for, you know? that's where things are right now, and that is, you know -- i don't think that's going to be the things that keeps kids safe in schools. >> we can do better than that. to go back to joy's point, the nra is a paper tiger. i come from the second largest nra membership state in the union. pennsylvania has more nra members than any state other than texas. i won three statewide elections by 10%,